Life

Life and Death what are they

Hell is it real?

And is there life after death?

Where Heaven or Earth?

 

Life what is it

 

First it must be said that it was never God’s intention that mankind should grow old and die, we were designed to live forever, here on earth in paradise and if Adam and Eve had used their free will correctly we wouldn’t be in this mess. This can be easily seen at Gen 3:22 where God stops Adam and Eve eating from the tree of life which He had given to them and their offspring to enable them as it says ‘live for ever’ here on earth in paradise, but that was only if they stayed faithful to Almighty God as stated at; Gen 2:17 basically that if they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and then they shalt surely die.

My comments in blue, Scriptures & quotes in black, references in green.

Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest there of thou shalt surely die. KJV

Gen 3:22 now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever KJV

Oh and some people say it wasn’t such a big deal that they took some fruit? Well yes it was, stealing from God was an act of disobedience to God after all He gave them, they had everything they could possibly need and they still stole from Him! There were no other people in existence, so God said but that’s mine, don’t take, and don’t eat. Not much to ask and paradise wouldn’t be paradise if everybody stole so God gave them a little test and He knew if they failed that little thing then they would not be fit to live in paradise, because with them in paradise it wouldn’t be paradise for long.  And in time they showed how right Almighty God was; because that was just the start of man turning away from Him, one generation down and brother is killing brother (and paradise wouldn’t be paradise with murderers in it) and it has just snowballed downhill ever since.

Gen 4:8 Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him NKJV

There is also a bigger issue here that is covered in; ‘Does the Lord give and the Lord take away?’

However even though mankind is in this sorry state we still have the desire to live forever and God wouldn’t have given us that desire if it wasn’t possible to obtain;

Ecc 3:11 God has planted eternity in the hearts of men The Living Bible 

So what is life; a human life, what is a human being or a soul? We can see this from when God created Adam; God formed the body of Adam from the dust, God then ‘breathed into the man’s nostrils the breath of* life; and the man became** a living soul‘, notice God did not put a soul into Adam.

So a live human being or a human soul is; the combination of our body and the breath of life force from God.

Gen 2; 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of* life; and man became** a living soul.  KJV+ RV

Gen 2; 7 Yahweh God shaped man from the soil of the ground and blew the breath of* life into his nostrils, and man became** a living being. The New Jerusalem Bible

*Hebrew; neshamah; a puff, wind, vital breath

**Hebrew; hayah; to exist, be or become

So at Gen 2: 7 the words where; ‘God … Formed the lifeless-body – Breathed – Into its nostrils – The Breath of – Life – and the man – Became – A soul – alive’

The importance of this is that God didn’t put a soul into Adam’s body and we don’t have a soul in our bodies; as a live human being or a human soul is the combination of our fleshly body and the breath of life force from God.

 

Death what is it?

So now that we know a live human being or a human soul is; the combination of our fleshly body and the breath of life force from God. What happens when we die or to put it another way; if one is taken away?

Ps 146:3, 4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. RV, KJ, ASV

If one is taken away then we don’t exist in any form what’s so ever, our breath of life goes out and our thoughts do perish. We don’t exist, but this wasn’t God’s intention for us to grow old and die, there is hope through Christ.

Many religions get the condition of the dead wrong, that a person or soul does existing after death is totally wrong and because anyone can take a single scripture out of context to try and prove otherwise here is a long list of scriptures and as usual from many bibles to clarify the issue;

Eze 18; 4 Behold… the soul that sinneth, it shall die. KJV

Eze 18; 4 Look! All the souls—to me they belong. As the soul of the father so likewise the soul of the son—to me they belong. The soul that is sinning—it itself will die. NWT

 Eze 18; 4 the soul that sinneth, the same shall die. Douay-Rheims

Ge 2: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you are not to eat; for, the day you eat of that, you are doomed to die. 3: 17 … you return to the ground, as you were taken from it. For dust you are and dust you return. New Jerusalem

Ec 9; 2 All things come alike to all: there is one event to the righteous, and to the wicked; to the good and to the clean, and to the unclean; to him that sacrificeth, and to him that sacrificeth not: as is the good, so is the sinner; and he that sweareth, as he that feareth an oath. 5 For the living know that they shall die; but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love , and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. 10 Whatever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest. KJV

Ps 104:29 if you turned your back, they’d die in a minute, Take back your Spirit and they die, revert to original mud MESSAGE

Some may say how about scriptures that state ones spirit returns to God?  Well the Hebrew word her is; Ruwach; meaning; wind or breath, it’s in a way God’s power but more, it’s His active force, it’ similar to the Gen 2; 7 Hebrew word; neshamah; the breath of life,

Ec 12; 6 … remember your creator now while you are still young, before the silver core of life snaps … 7 the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit* (breath) returns to God who gave it. ⁸ All is futile…utterly futile. Living Bible 

* Hebrew; Ruwach; meaning; wind or breath

Ps 146; 4 spirit** goes out, he goes back to his ground; In that day his thoughts do perish. NWT

**Footnote Breath

Job 14; 10 a man dies, and that is the end of him Good News

Ro 5:14 Nevertheless, death ruled as king from Adam down NWT

But don’t be too depressed; death does not rule as king forever;

1 Cor 15; 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death NRSV

So it can clearly be seen from the Scriptures above that we simply do not exist after death, there is no thought, no knowledge, and no pain. But a person can still be in God’s memory and God can resurrect that person.

 

 So what about Hell, is it real?

It’s an insult to suggest that our loving heavenly Father Jehovah God would burn people in Hell and forever!

At death the soul doesn’t exist and our thoughts do perish, the dead do not know anything, so this idea of a place of tormented souls is false, it’s ludicrous, but what about those scriptures that talk of hell?

The word Hell is a poor translation of the Hebrew word; Sheol* and the Greek word for Sheol; Hades** and even; Gehenna*** and even Tartaros which a state that sinful angels were placed.

Sheol and Hades are poorly understood as even in Strong’s where the meaning is; the world of the dead (as if a subterranean retreat), including its accessories and inmates. This is clearly wrong according to scripture and is translated wrong as; grave, hell and pit in the King James and many other bibles!

* Hebrew; she’owl; or sheol; from; Hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranean retreat),

** Greek; haides; “Hades” or the place (state) of departed souls: but this contradicts its next statement; from NT:1 (as negative) and the Greek; eido; to know.  So as it’s a place or state as; negative to know, this part is correct; it’s in harmony with; Eccl 9:5 the dead know nothing, NKJV

In the above section ‘Death what is it’ the Scriptures clearly show that we simply do not exist after death, there is no thought, no knowledge, and no pain after death, so Hell does not exist and is not a place of suffering, so we should simply understand that the bible meaning is at death mankind go to the grave, not an individual grave, but the common grave of mankind as in; returning to the earth; Ps 146:4 or For dust you are and dust you return; Gen 3.17.

Ps 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. KJV

Eccl 9:2 All things come alike to all: One event happens to the righteous and the wicked; To the good, the clean, and the unclean; To him who sacrifices and him who does not sacrifice. As is the good, so is the sinner; He who takes an oath as he who fears an oath. 5 For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished; Nevermore will they have a share In anything done under the sun. 10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or device or knowledge or wisdom in the grave* [Sheol] where you are going.  NKJV

Gehenna; Jesus told his disciples that they would be persecuted due to their preaching work, but Jesus told them not fear man but God; Matt 10:28 do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell*** [Gehenna]. NKJV So again the bible is stating that it’s not just the body that is destroyed at death; but the complete soul. The point of the scripture is that if man kills, then a person dies; but that person can still be in God’s memory and God can resurrect that person, but if a person dies because of judgement of sin by God then there is no resurrection.

*** Gehenna is an actual place; the Valley of Hinnom, south west of Jerusalem;

***Gehenna a name for hell; Greek geenna, from Hebrew ge’ hinnom ‘hell’, literally ‘valley of Hinnom’, a place near Jerusalem where children were sacrificed to Baal. ED

The Jews in the first century time period well knew what Gehenna was and that in their time it was used as a rubbish dump, which constantly burned with fire and was also used to discard the dead bodies of criminals.

The idea of burning people in Gehenna was bad in Jehovah’s eyes, a detestable thing that had never come into His heart or mind; He had driven this pagan practice out of Israel;

2 Chron 33:1 Ma·nas′seh … reigned for 55 years in Jerusalem. 2 He did what was bad in Jehovah’s eyes … 3 He rebuilt the high places that his father Hez·e·ki′ah had torn down, he set up altars to the Ba′als and made sacred poles … 6 And he made his own sons pass through the fire in the Valley of the Son of Hin′nom; he practiced magic, used divination, practiced sorcery… He did on a grand scale what was bad in Jehovah’s eyes, to offend him. NWT

Jer 32:28 Therefore thus says Yahweh: 35 They built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech; which I didn’t command them, neither did it come into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin. WEB

2 Chron 28:3 Moreover, he made sacrificial smoke in the Valley of the Son of Hin′nom and burned up his sons in the fire, following the detestable practices of the nations that Jehovah had driven out from before the Israelites. NWT

Tartaros; This is a word again wrongly translated as hell at 2 Peter 2:4, it’s a mental state of mind rather than a place where the beings are still alive, and is only used in connection to the sinful angels of Noah’s day who were the sons of God that desired the daughters of men and so took human form at; Gen 6.2;

2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell****, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly.  KJV

**** Greek Tartaro; (the deepest abyss of Hades); to incarcerate in eternal torment

Gen 6:2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. NKJV

And the same angels are spoken of at Jude 6;

Jude 6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day. NKJV

Abyss; Another word that that is used in connection with imprisoning of sinful angels is the Greek word; abussos; translated as; abyss and the deep.

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss***** and a great chain in his hand. NWT

Luke 8:30 many demons … 31 And they begged Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss***** NKJV

***** Greek abussos; depthless, “abyss”

The God of justice: Another point to consider is that Jehovah God is the God of love and justice. The idea, the very thought of a fiery Hell created by God is ridiculous. One of Almighty God’s prime qualities after love is justice, as in the punishment should fit the crime and where is the justice in God punishing someone in a fiery Hell for ever. Can any human be guilty of keeping someone conscious in an agonising fire forever and ever or do anything like that to another human being? No of course not, so that punishment would not be justice and The God of Justice would not and could not ever do that.

Ps 33:5 He loves righteousness and justice. The earth is filled with Jehovah’s loyal love. NWT

Ps 33:5 He loves righteousness and justice. The earth is full of the loving kindness of Yahweh. WEB

Job 37:23 Understanding the Almighty is beyond our reach; He is great in power, And he never violates his justice and abundant righteousness. NWT

Job 37:23 “Mighty God! Far beyond our reach! Unsurpassable in power and justice! It’s unthinkable that he’d treat anyone unfairly. THE MESSAGE

 

Is there life after death?

As said above; it was never God’s intention that mankind should grow old and die, we were designed to live forever, here on earth in paradise. But because our ancestors Adam and Eve sinned this hasn’t changed God purpose for the earth and for the future of those who are faithful to Him, after all it’s what we pray for; Mt 6:10 Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth. So even when Satan or man tries to do things their way for the detriment of mankind; God’s will or purpose will always succeed;

Hosea 13:14 ‘I will deliver them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death… TNIV

Mat 22:31 ‘But about the resurrection of the dead, have you never read what God himself said to you? [Ex 3:6] “I am the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob”? He is not God of the dead but of the living.’ NEB

Luke 20:37 “But now, as to whether the dead will be raised—even Moses proved this when he wrote about the burning bush. Long after Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob had died, he referred to the Lord as ‘the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ 38 So he is the God of the living, not the dead, for they are all alive to him.” NLT

So simply to answer the question is there life after death the answer is yes there is life after death, the dead have the opportunity of a resurrection, but one has to look deeper into scripture to understand the full truth, as there are so many false teachings.  

First there is a belief that one dies and then is taken directly off to heaven or hell, well as discussed hell doesn’t exist, but let’s look at this taken directly off to somewhere. After Jesus cured a man and told him to; “Rise, take up your bed and walk”; he told the Jews;

John 5:28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves* will hear His voice 29 and come forth… NKJV

Notice that Jesus said of the resurrection that all who are in the graves*; the hour is coming, so the resurrection was to be in the future and also later Paul said; there will be a resurrection of the dead so again in the future.

Acts 24:15 [Paul] I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept, that there will be a resurrection of the dead…  NKJV Written 65 CE by Paul, so Paul was looking to a future time.

This idea was also known by Martha when speaking to Jesus of Lazarus, but she stated when the resurrection was to be, and that was in the future; at the last day, far into the future;

John 11:23 Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24 Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” 25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. NKJV

And again; Acts 2:34 For David didn’t ascend into the heavens, but he says himself, ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit by my right hand, 35 Until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.”‘ WEB

So this belief that one dies and then is taken directly off to heaven or somewhere else is incorrect, false!

But John 5:28 also stated; all who are in the graves* will hear His voice 29 and come forth, so this raises two questions; will all who have died and gone to the grave be resurrected and how can the dead that ‘know nothing’ and do not exist; hear His voice?

Well the word graves here in The New King James (which is sometimes translated as tombs in some bibles) is not in the original Greek, it’s a word that is rarely used which is; “mnemeion” meaning; a remembrance or memory.

* Greek; mnemeion; a remembrance, from; Greek; mneme; memory.

This is similar to the idea a Cenotaph a place not of the dead but to remember the dead;

Cenotaph; a monument to someone buried elsewhere, especially a war memorial. ED

The word is similar to; mnemoneuo which is used at;

Mark 8:18 Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember**? KJV

Matt 16:9 Do ye not yet understand, neither remember** the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up? KJV

**Greek; mnemoneuo (mnay-mon-yoo’-o); to exercise memory

The New World Translation has the closest translation of the true meaning of the text; John 5; 28, 29 the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice …and come out NWT

The remembrance or memory is referring to all those in Gods memory as;

John 5:21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.  22 For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son… 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. 28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves*[memorial tombs] will hear His voice 29 and come forth…  NKJV

So when it comes to the resurrection of mankind the grave is nothing but a symbol, the literal grave has nothing to do with it, the resurrection is the loving action of The All Mighty God Jehovah who has in His memory all those loyal to Him and they are all alive to Him. So they hear His voice in the sense that to Him they are alive because; Ex 3:6 He is not God of the dead but of the living.’ NEB and as John 5; 28, 29 does not say ‘grave’ but says; memorial tombs it’s not all those that have gone to the grave; but only those God chooses to remember due to their heart condition; Jer 17:10 I, Jehovah, am searching the heart, Examining the innermost thoughts, To give to each one according to his ways, According to the fruitage of his works. And it’s also worth mentioning that some will assume to have a resurrection but Christ said; Mt 7:21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’

It’s always good to know and remember that Jehovah is; Ps 7:9 the righteous God who examines the hearts and the deepest emotions. It’s at times like this I think of ones who have been stumbled. I literally pray and thank God that He examines Hearts and deepest emotions, as man cannot. See; Stumbled

Also one of the above scriptures make a strange statement it’s at the end of John 5:28, so we’ll cover that next;

 

The last part of John 5:28

Resurrection of life and

resurrection of condemnation

 

John 5:28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth — those who have done* good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done** evil, to the resurrection of condemnation NKJV

This seems at first strange for good people to be resurrected to life; but then for bad people to be resurrected only to be condemned to die again, that can’t be right for Jehovah God is; The God of love, justice and forgiveness, and a closer look at the Greek words for ‘done‘ show errors in translation and all the translations that I’ve checked have used one or two of the following words; Lived, been, did, practised, and done.

However in my research I have found that where as all the bibles used words that are past tense as in; have done, the first word in the Greek is; poieo* and has the meaning; to make or [to] do and the second is; prasso** and means; to “practise“ and [to] perform repeatedly or habitually. All these are future tense as in; I am going to make, going to do, to practice and to perform and not past tense.

The condemnation in Greek is; krisis means; decision, a tribunal, so judgment

So that being the case the scripture should be translated as; those who will do good things to a resurrection of life, and those who will practice (repeatedly or habitually) bad things to a resurrection of judgment. Indicating there will be a testing period after the resurrection and a subsequent judgement.  

So this fits in with Rom 6:23 For the wages paid by Sin are death Weymouth The debt of any previous sin having already been paid, one can’t be punished again or twice for the same sin, the slate is clean. Rom6:7 one who has died has been acquitted from his sin NWT

Also this fits in with Revelation where Satan is released for a time after the thousand years and allowed to tempt the earthly resurrected ones, who are then finally judged for their conduct during that time after their resurrection. Some actually turn on those faithful to God, which is astounding and also total foolishness, having been resurrected to perfection and to still turn against God! 

Rev 20:7 Now as soon as the 1,000 years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison… 8 and he will go out to mislead those nations 13 and they were judged individually according to their deeds NWT

This also is in harmony with, but coming  from a different angle as; it-2 p. 789; Jesus … taking a … position in time in speaking of “those who did good things” and “those who practiced vile things,” namely, a position at the end of the period of judgment, as looking back in retrospect or in review of the actions of these resurrected persons after they had opportunity to obey or disobey the “things written in the scrolls.”

 

Where are the dead resurrected?

To Heaven or Earth?

To the Jews the people of the Old Testament the idea of going to heaven was alien to them, they knew that Adam and Eve were meant to live here on earth in paradise forever; Ge 1:28 ‘Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it’ and that they too would have that same prospect here on earth and that God was going to in time remove the wicked;

Ps 37:10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. 11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. KJV

Ps 37:29 The upright will have the earth for their heritage, and will go on living there for ever. BBE

Pr 2:21, 22 . . .For only the upright will reside in the earth, And the blameless will remain in it. 22 As for the wicked, they will be cut off from the earth, And the treacherous will be torn away from it. NWT2013

Isa 45:18 For thus says Yahweh who created the heavens, the God who formed the earth and made it, who established it and didn’t create it a waste, who formed it to be inhabited: I am Yahweh; and there is no one else. WEB or;

Isa 45:18 …He didn’t go to all that trouble to just leave it empty, nothing in it. He made it to be lived in. THE MESSAGE

They also knew that Almighty God is always true to His Word and He will do exactly as promised and the earth will be restored to paradise as in Eden;

Isa 55:11 So also is my word. I send it out, and it always produces fruit. It shall accomplish all I want it to, and it will prosper everywhere I send it. 12 You will live in joy and peace. The mountains and hills, and the trees of the field – all the world around you – will rejoice 13 Where once there were thorns, fir trees will grow. Where briars grew, myrtles trees will sprout up. LB

One of the first indications of a heavenly hope or resurrection was in Christ’s early ministry at Matthew chapter 5 in verse 3 he said;

Matt 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven KJV

Interestingly most bibles use the word ‘poor’ in this verse however Greek word is; ptochos; to crouch; a beggar, so they are not lacking in spirit, they are begging for spirit, or looking to God for guidance. Here’s a better version;

Mt 5:3 Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them. NWT2013

So verse 3 shows some have a heavenly hope, but then in verse 5 Christ clearly states that others have an earthly hope as they will inherit the earth, so there are two different hopes of the resurrections or two different groups;

Matt 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. KJV

So why do some have a heavenly hope and others an earthly hope? Because when Adam and Eve sinned Almighty God had to put in to place a sequence of events (including a chosen nation of Israel) to correct the situation leading to an intermediator Jesus Christ, who would become both King and Priest to accomplish the removal of Satan and those that follow him and oversee the restoration of paradise and of faithful servants to a clean standing with Jehovah. To accomplish the latter Jehovah provided Christ with helpers from earth also to become kings and priests, this can be seen at Re 5.10;

Re 5:10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings* over the earth.” The word ‘over’ in this scripture is miss-translated in most bibles and as ‘on’ as in ‘on* the earth, however the Greek word here is; epi means; superimposition or over. Which makes sense as Matt 5:3 says of this group; theirs is the kingdom of heaven which is in heaven.

*Greek; epi; means; superimposition which means to; place or lay (one thing) over another; over

Another scripture showing the two different hopes or groups is at Re 7: 4, where those with the heavenly hope are given a specific number of 144,000 and then in verse 9 a different group, an earthly group; are called a great crowd, which no man was able to number, these were standing before the throne, or before Jehovah as at 2Ch 20:13; the nation of Israel stood before Jehovah (they were still on earth), whereas the 144,000 are clearly in heaven, as at Re 14.1 shows them with ‘the Lamb standing on Mount Zion’ and verse 3 states ‘the 144,000, who have been bought from the earth’;

Re 7: 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel… 9 After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb

Re 14:1 Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 …  3 …the 144,000, who have been bought from the earth.

2Ch 20:13 Meanwhile, all those of Judah were standing before Jehovah, along with their little ones, their wives, and their children. . .

The bible states that the 144,000 rule for a thousand years we aren’t told any more of what they do next, but it’s probably because everything will be back to God’s original paradise and there wasn’t any mention of there being Kings in paradise and the priest were due to man’s sin or imperfection and the need for intermediaries and mankind would be perfect by then.

Re 20:4 And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for 1,000 years

There are other scriptures showing a difference of the two groups; Lu 12:22 Then he said to his disciples… 32 “Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom. Affectionately talking to the apostles calling the heavenly group; little flock as the apostles are the starting point or  foundation stones of the heavenly 144,000; Re 21:14 … 12 foundation stones, and on them were the 12 names of the 12 apostles of the Lamb.

On another occasion speaking of the earthly group;

Joh 10.16 “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice

So to answer the question; where are the dead resurrected to Heaven or Earth, the answer is both as it can clearly be seen there are two groups; the first group will be to heaven a relatively small number of 144,000 who will be kings and priest with Christ. The second group will be the vast majority of those to gain a resurrection the great crowd who will live here on earth, to a restored earth, a paradise as God originally intended.

 

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Does the Lord give and the Lord take away

Creation Evolution versus logic

 

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